tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6555947.post116534236261279971..comments2024-03-14T01:32:43.610-06:00Comments on The Geomblog: Author ordering and game theory.Suresh Venkatasubramanianhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15898357513326041822noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6555947.post-3351023868158786072007-02-11T12:43:00.000-07:002007-02-11T12:43:00.000-07:00Amusing.Author early in the alphabet have an advan...Amusing.<BR/><BR/>Author early in the alphabet have an advantage, not a disadvantage, because they get to be first authors on major discoveries. I have a friend that this happened to. Yes, you can argue that there's a corresponding disadvantage, because thay may be assumed to be lead author sometimes just based on their name, not their contribution, but this is not NEARLY as important as the advantage gained by even once being first author on a major paper where you were 1/200th of the work, but the citation is "your name et al." <BR/><BR/>The correct game-theory answer to "who should be first author" is "the guy who actually writes the paper should be first author." This is a stable equilibrium; if somebody else wanted to have been first author, they would have written the damn paper themself.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6555947.post-1166092090892870132006-12-14T03:28:00.000-07:002006-12-14T03:28:00.000-07:00At least in economics, a early surname seems to he...At least in economics, a early surname seems to help:<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.stanford.edu/~leinav/Surnames.pdf" REL="nofollow">Liran Einav and Leeat Yariv: What’s in a Surname? The Effects of<BR/>Surname Initials on Academic Success</A>  <BR/><BR/><A></A><A></A>Posted by<A><B> </B></A><A HREF="http://yetanothersheep.blogspot.com/" REL="nofollow" TITLE="michael dot greinecker at oeh dot univie dot ac dot at">Michael Greinecker</A>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6555947.post-1165953166642059042006-12-12T12:52:00.000-07:002006-12-12T12:52:00.000-07:00The advantage of having the lexicographic first na...The advantage of having the lexicographic first name is being quoted as A.... et. al.<BR/><BR/>"But, if the merit ordering ends up being alphabetic then the first author may loose because it is probably assumed that the ordering was made alphabetically."<BR/><BR/>And if it is made alphabetically, one may think that the last place is "deserved" by a ranking by contribution. <BR/><BR/>The problem seems to be completely symmetric to me. <BR/><BR/><BR/> <BR/><BR/><A></A><A></A>Posted by<A><B> </B></A><A HREF="http://yetanothersheep.blogspot.com/" REL="nofollow" TITLE="michael dot greinecker at oeh dot univie dot ac dot at">Michael Greinecker</A>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6555947.post-1165602018878129652006-12-08T11:20:00.000-07:002006-12-08T11:20:00.000-07:00But, if the merit ordering ends up being alphabeti...But, if the merit ordering ends up being alphabetic then the first author may loose because it is probably assumed that the ordering was made alphabetically.<BR/><BR/>You can thus argue that the early alphabet people have more to loose. <BR/><BR/><A></A><A></A>Posted by<A><B> </B></A>JeffPAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6555947.post-1165557063787672542006-12-07T22:51:00.000-07:002006-12-07T22:51:00.000-07:00Now how come early alphabet authors are at a disad...Now how come early alphabet authors are at a disadvantage? Lexicographic ordering on a paper could come from true lexicographic ordering, or coincidental merit ordering (Which in this case would be a plus). For authors at the end of the alphabet, the ordering could come from true lexicographic ordering, or coincidental merit ordering (Which in this case would be a minus).<BR/><BR/>If you assume some kind of probability for merit ordering when you see a lexicographically ordered paper, the authors at the end of the alphabet lose. <BR/><BR/><A></A><A></A>Posted by<A><B> </B></A>AAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6555947.post-1165380856095320862006-12-05T21:54:00.000-07:002006-12-05T21:54:00.000-07:00Wow. Quite an interesting read here. I've gotta go...Wow. Quite an interesting read here. I've gotta go grab my dictionary. Anyways, compliments on the blog. Keep at it.<BR/><BR/>Matt Menster<BR/><A HREF="http://www.usfreeads.com/611167-cls.html" REL="nofollow">Affiliate Marketing</A>  <BR/><BR/><A></A><A></A>Posted by<A><B> </B></A><A HREF="http://www.usfreeads.com/611167-cls.html" REL="nofollow" TITLE="sunsolutions02 at yahoo dot com">Matt</A>Matthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13929453429951585758noreply@blogger.com